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marz5775
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I have this admittedly half-baked idea that Subterranean Homesick Blues could be viewed (heard) as a precursor of today's rap music. I'm not well-versed in hip hop/rap, but the rhythm of the song is such that it could easily be done as rap. Am I out in left field or does anyone see what I mean?

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Wilbur
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Hey and welcome at dylanradio, marz5775!

Even if the cadence is standart blues, I often thought the same about this song. The way the rhymes work i.e. in that verse:

Get sick, get well
Hang around a ink well
Ring bell, hard to tell
If anything is goin' to sell
Try hard, get barred
Get back, write braille
Get jailed, jump bail
Join the army, if you fail.

...are very 'rappy', indeed.

Another song reminds me on rap, too: It's Alright, Ma
The staccato or hard sung verses in change with a nice and more or less soft little melodie...that's what rappers often do, too.

Have fun at the radio station!
Wilbur

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Thanks for the reply Wilbur. Now I don't feel so all alone! I AM havin' fun at DylanRadio. And don't worry, I'll be "bobbin'" forever. Very Happy Very Happy
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MMMMLY
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Bob Dylan's 115th Dream feels pretty gangster 2 me.
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These lines from Chuck Berry's "Too Much Monkey Business" remind me of Subterranean Homesick Blues.

Pay phone - something wrong - dime gone - will mail
Ought to sue the operator for telling me a tale - ahh!
Too much monkey business. Too much monkey business.
Too much monkey business for me to be involved in!

Been to Yokohama - been fightin' in the war.
Army bunk - Army chow - Army clothes - Army car, aah!
Too much monkey business. Too much monkey business.
Too much monkey business for me to be involved in!

Workin' in the fillin' station - too many tasks.
Wipe the windows - check the tires - check the oil - dollar
Gas!
Too much monkey business. Too much monkey business.
Don't want your botheration, get away, leave me!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyipWCVPIeI
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All I Really Want To Do
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Hey Marz7557

That's a pretty well regarded statement in the world of both rock and literary criticism, so fear not you are sane for pertaining such!
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marz5775
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I see now that a source no less estimable than Rolling Stone agrees with me!
Check this out!
http://www.rollingstone.com/rockdaily/index.php/2010/03/30/is-bob-dylan-hip-hops-godfather-his-ties-to-beasties-roots-more/

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Just for the record (and because I like Dylan's funny answer).

One of the highlights in the interview comes when Flannigan asks Dylan if heís heard the festive hip-hop album Christmas on Death Row, and if he listens to rap in general. ďI donít listen to rap radio stations and I donít play rap songs on the jukebox, and I donít go to rap shows ó So no I guess I donít listen to rap music all that much,Ē Dylan admitted, though he did voice his respect for all the rappers out there, ďI love rhyming for rhyming sake. I think thatís an incredible art form.Ē

Source: http://www.rollingstone.com/rockdaily/index.php/2009/11/24/bob-dylan-on-christmas-memories-appreciating-hip-hop/

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